TV Presenter - Liz Cantor

In this episode, I’m joined by TV presenter and two time reality tv show winner (The Mole and Livingstone Botswana), Liz Cantor as she shares her unique insights from an enduring career in front of the camera. Whether she’s delivering the winning lotto numbers, fronting stories on the best travel and adventure spots or dominating any reality competition she enters, Liz’s passion and enthusiasm for her work always shines through.

Transcript

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Hayley Ferguson
Hi, I'm Hayley Ferguson. And this is Beyond Reality, the podcast that explores the world of television production by chatting to the people behind the TV shows you love. In this episode, I'm joined by TV presenter and two-time reality TV show winner Liz Cantor, as she shares her unique insights from an enduring career in front of the camera, whether she's delivering the winning lotto numbers, fronting stories on the best travel and adventure spots, or dominating any reality competition she enters.

00;00;31;24 - 00;00;37;06
Hayley Ferguson
Liz's passion and enthusiasm for her work always shines through TV presenting.

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Liz Cantor
It's not so much about us. It's about how we make other people feel. It gives me a kick when I see my effect on other people to entertain them or inform them and make them happy.

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Hayley Ferguson
Hi, Liz.

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Liz Cantor
Hi. I'm so glad we could finally catch up and have this chat. I love talking TV, so I'm so excited to talk TV with someone just as passionate about it.

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Hayley Ferguson
And I mean you were someone, you reached out to me quite early on in releasing the podcast, and I've known that I've definitely wanted to speak to you for a long time, so I'm so glad we could finally make it happen.

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Liz Cantor
I can't even remember how I stumbled across your podcast. I've always listen to podcasts because twice a week at least I have to drive up to Brisbane for Lotto in the evenings and podcasts, get me through that three hour return drive. And I think I was just looking into television podcasts one day and stumbled across yours and also mind blown because nobody has done anything like you're doing where it's so unique to find something that analyze the different aspects of the job.

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Liz Cantor
I find it really interesting. So good on you, Hayley.

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Hayley Ferguson
Thank you. And I guess it started for me because, yeah, there wasn't information like this out there. There wasn't these conversations of it, literally. I mean, they're the kind of conversations that if anyone knows me, I ask a lot of questions as to general life. And these are the conversations that I'd love to have on set. But, you know, there's never any time in TV to actually do that.

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Hayley Ferguson
So it's actually really nice to kind of dig into these things.

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Liz Cantor
And for me, I've worked in television now for, gosh, over 15 years, but I'm still unsure of the ins and outs of what's entitled with a line producer. And what is the difference between kind of an executive producer or a series producer? And to do my job well, it's really good to have that kind of understanding and a manual to know the ins and outs of other people's roles and then also to hear from them, even like a camera operator and editor.

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Liz Cantor
What makes their job easier? It just makes you better in what you're doing, too. So I've loved it.

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Hayley Ferguson
I mean, it is one of those things. TV is so diverse and everyone has like these weird and wonderful backgrounds. It's never a straight line in television for you. You are a TV presenter, a radio announcer, a former pro surfer, a two time reality TV winner. It feels like you've done it all is is it's something I'm missing.

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Liz Cantor
Oh, I'm also a mum. Yes, I'm very aware of that right now. So three kids at home. I've got two boys, they're five and six. And I've just had a baby girl. She's nine months old. But yeah, I think you take the the CV. Yeah.

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Hayley Ferguson
Well we're working around your youngest naptime right now, so I'm conscious of that, I guess, in terms of what you do and there's a lot of things that you do, but what would people recognize you from?

00;03;30;11 - 00;03;50;21
Liz Cantor
So nationally I do the gold lotto and Powerball draws state based in Queensland. I'm lucky enough to do the weather for seven Gold Coast News and I also do two lifestyle shows, Creek to Coast, which is a boating, boating, fishing, surfing lifestyle, a four wheel driving show and Weekender, which is a bit more events and travel.

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Hayley Ferguson
So you're very busy obviously, I guess. What does your job involve?

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Liz Cantor
It still blows my mind that a lot of people think a weather presenter just turns up and is given a script these days. So on a Monday when I am doing weather, I have to get in there early. I have to write all my scripts, all my updates, research, what happened with the weather overnight? I've actually done a course of meteorology and then we also actually manually into our graphics.

00;04;17;02 - 00;04;34;15
Liz Cantor
So we build those graphics and the templates that you see on air. But I really enjoy that. I'm kind of a bit of a weather nerd at heart, so I love looking up, you know, any interesting facts? Lotto is pretty straight forward. We get onto set, we go into a little bit of a lockdown situation. We receive a fax.

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Liz Cantor
Believe it or not, there's still fax machines. Apparently, it's the safest way to get the information across that every newsagent in the whole of Australia is shot. And after we receive that fax, which I think it's because fax, copy hacked, whereas email still there's a risk of hacking the draw officials, government supervisors we all sit in and which means that draw as long as we can to and create decoys.

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Liz Cantor
We are mostly on the road. And I work with a camera operator and a producer. And then we also answer to a series producer.

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Hayley Ferguson
Wow. So just with the letter, you said that they received a fax. What is the fax telling you.

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Liz Cantor
That every news agency in the whole of Australia is shot? So it's official word that no more tickets can be sold. So there's no risk of anyone manually changing numbers after the draw.

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Hayley Ferguson
Right. Okay. Okay. Wow. It sounds like you must have have to have a really diverse set of skills doing that, like you said. I mean, the people's perception of a weather girl is turning up and looking pretty and pointing to a map, but there's so much more involved.

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Liz Cantor
Yeah, I think you've got to stay in this industry no matter what you're doing. You have to be authentic. And at the end of the day, it's sharing information. And you really do need to know that information to be successful in what you're doing. So I think it comes down to curiosity and just a general interest in what you're doing and then appreciating that you're sharing that information with others.

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Hayley Ferguson
And is there a lot of work travel? You know, you talk about doing create close. Are you traveling a lot? You're living on the sunny Gold Coast or is that sort of traveling around that kind of area?

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Liz Cantor
I was I was traveling quite a bit, but since having bub, I've cut that back down for the moment. So it's mostly day trips. So just, you know, one, one night that's definitely been one of the one of the challenges having to pull back on that that, you know, it's it's a moment in time. One day, hopefully I'll get back on the road and do some bigger adventures.

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Liz Cantor
But yeah, Creek to Coast can really go anywhere. Weekender is more state based, but every now and then we can do kind of does cross borders across Australia.

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Hayley Ferguson
So take me back. Did you always want to work in TV?

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Liz Cantor
Yeah, I wanted to do something with a creative storytelling outlet. Like I loved magazines, I loved books, I loved the theater. But I was never chance of that because I can't sing. So my life that I just loved, even today, going into a musical theater and sitting there and looking at the audience and just seeing how happy they are.

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Liz Cantor
For me, I've always found that TV, it kind of provides a distraction or acts as a form of relief when you're going through tough times and it ignites people's imagination. And I love that. It informs them and entertains them. You know, it's a medium that can inspire humans and escaping our own reality and tuning into someone else's has always really ignited me.

00;07;26;11 - 00;07;44;27
Liz Cantor
And I love to be able to provide that father's, I think, you know, TV presenting, it's not so much about us. It's about how we make other people feel and while that sounds generous, at the end of the day, it gives me a kick. So it's a little bit selfish when I see my effect on other people to entertain them or inform them and make them happy.

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Liz Cantor
Yeah.

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Hayley Ferguson
And I mean, what shows do you remember watching growing up? Were there shows that you feel like shaped you in a way or you remember being like, you know, this is what I want to do?

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Liz Cantor
It was more the medium that when I was able to watch TV, my imagination would come alive and it was movies as well. Like I remember going to the cinema for the first time on my own to see my go and it just been mind blowing that a story like that could be created. My mum was an English teacher and she was really passionate about reading books when we were younger.

00;08;22;16 - 00;08;52;06
Liz Cantor
My grandfather was a great storyteller. I think stories just ignite me and so it wasn't any particular shows, although I can I can name like from Fireman Sam to cab as to moving on to friends to Dawson's Creek to. But it was yeah, even more so in movies, but just that ability to suspend reality and ignite your imagination just feels me and I love the ability to do that for other people.

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Liz Cantor
But what I found is I also really love to share factual information these days. My favorite part of the job as well is just the human interaction. Like I love to interview people especially. I don't know if it's the psychology of it, but I find that when I go to interview someone and they're particularly nervous or hesitant to be on camera, that's when I get a real kick out of being able to make them feel comfortable and draw out their stories.

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Liz Cantor
I've never come across anyone who doesn't have something interesting to share. They might not think it, but everyone has their own unique story, and that's probably my favorite part of the job now interviewing people, especially just you, everyday people and drawing out what's what they know.

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Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, for me as a producer as well, like I love, I love interviewing people and it's like getting those moments that yeah. When they don't think it's a big deal and you're like, That's a really interesting story.

00;09;48;12 - 00;10;14;07
Liz Cantor
Maybe that's why I love the medium of reality TV too, because watching that unfold, it's really exciting. It's very authentic. I know a lot of people say, Oh, yell at TV, it's scripted and it's made up and blah blah blah. Trust me, I've been on two shows. No, it's not. You can be directed in a way to have a conversation about something or led in, but it's still real.

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Liz Cantor
And I do love seeing people come out of their shell and those stories inform and different people's perspectives. Yeah, I find that really exciting. And one thing that I might be getting ahead of us, but something that I've really loved is breaking down that wall between the reality TV contestants and the producers and the camera operators. That has happened of likes where we don't pretend anymore that they're not there.

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Liz Cantor
And you'll hear producers sound up and or you hear you'll see a camera operator like in shot and I just maybe it's because I'm so fascinated with how stories are created made but when I see those moments, I thought that was brilliant. Like, so that's how they got that answer, that was the line of questioning or that's where people's heads are at and for me,

00;11;00;21 - 00;11;07;21
Liz Cantor
That almost makes it feel real and even more authentic because you can see the immediate response to a question.

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Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, totally. And these days, like I'm always I'm always listening out for those behind the scenes moments or like people in shot because a lot of them are my friends and I can recognize that voice. So I'm like, Oh, oh, I know that cameraman. Like.

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Liz Cantor
Yes. And you know, it is meant to be reality TV. And when you do have those contestants that are too aware of the camera's being in their face, sometimes it's the moments when they think the cameras are off or in between. The action where you get the real sound bites. And I love that that's being included in the shows now, even though it might not be polished, it's taking it back to reality TV.

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Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, yeah, definitely. So you you obviously wanted to work in television. You knew that from an early age. What was your first job in TV?

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Liz Cantor
So because I did drama through school and I loved drama, I had a couple of acting roles, but that was more of a side hobby. I got a start in Getting Squared, which was a Sam Worthington movie shot in Queensland during my teenage years. I was In Blurred, which was finishing - it was a schoolies movie shot in the Gold Coast too, so little bit parts.

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Liz Cantor
And then I was in ABC's production of Bluewater High, which I really was included because of my surfing background.

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Hayley Ferguson
Can we just circle back? Because he did sort of just drop in there that you had a surfing background, so you previously were a professional surfer. Can you sort of take me back to that and how that sort of started and how that was part of your life?

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Liz Cantor
Yeah, well, I'd say competitive surfer, not professional surfer, but some people I did have a sponsorship from Billabong and I was competing. But when I when I hear professional surfer, it makes me feel like uncomfortable because I'm like a professional surfers. Kelly Slater I was just competing and doing my very best, but I was never going to be a Stephanie Gilmore.

00;13;01;00 - 00;13;19;22
Liz Cantor
I was one of those people that if there was, you know, a best effort award, it would go to Liz. But I was never taking out the trophy, but I absolutely loved it. My dad was a surfer. I still today surf as much as I can. It's a great love. And yes, so I was competing. I was lucky enough to be sponsored by Billabong.

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Liz Cantor
I was making a small income and traveling as a surfer, but I think I always knew that even though I was doing that and making money and I actually was the first ever female surf judge to sit on an international panel, so I was making some good money internationally with surfing. You just you can't escape when you need to tell stories.

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Liz Cantor
It's there's no other way to explain it. So I had to go to university. A had to do my journalism degree and I just had to give that a shot. So I kind of stepped away from surfing. But I went to university, I did a Bachelor of Communications degree specializing in broadcast journalism, and then I went down to Sydney.

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Liz Cantor
I was doing work experience for all the networks. I was desperately trying to get a job. At that time I was chasing sports journalism and I came out to the Gold Coast and I was just reading the job section of the newspaper. Here we go. Showing my age like that. We used to read a job section of the newspaper back in, I think it was 2005, and I saw this little ad in the jump section with the Channel seven like.

00;14;23;13 - 00;14;42;15
Liz Cantor
So immediately I was like, TV. You never see TV jobs advertised. What is that? And it said, if you love adventure and travel applied now and had a website. So I went down to the local Internet cafe. I logged onto the website, went through a whole application and got a phone call to go to Brisbane for a casting process.

00;14;42;20 - 00;15;03;11
Liz Cantor
We still didn't know at that stage what we were applying for and my dream was always to do a show like Getaway or The Great Outdoors, and that's what I had in mind. So I drove to Brisbane. I went through the casting process which was a lot of theater sports, and if you progressed through each stage, the final stage was a one on one interview and I just had a fab time with it.

00;15;03;11 - 00;15;23;17
Liz Cantor
It was, it was so fun. Then I got a phone call, never forget it, because at the time I had a part time job doing the sea cruises for a radio station. Sea FM up here? I was that girl that drive around handing out drinks and things, and it was the executive producer saying, You've been successful with your casting.

00;15;23;26 - 00;15;45;10
Liz Cantor
We would like you to be on a show called The Mole. And I kind of remembered the mole being on air. So I was like, Oh, it's the mole was not expecting that. They said, We've sent you a contract. If you accept the contract, can you return it by 5 p.m. today and you'll be flying out to Sydney on Monday to film the opener and do all the cast press.

00;15;45;10 - 00;16;04;00
Liz Cantor
So they really gave us 12 hours to think about it and this might be an assumption, but I think if I said no, they had been next. The cast or whatever, you might be able to answer that better. So I drove back to the KFMB office. I walked into my boss and I said, Is there any chance I could have three months off?

00;16;04;00 - 00;16;28;17
Liz Cantor
I've just been invited to do a show called The Mole. And she looked to me, she was like, no. And I just stood there and I'm not a quitter. And I don't take anything for granted. And I'm like, Get your foot in the door, girl. But there was just something in that moment. And I went, Oh, okay, I guess I have to leave this joke that I don't think she was expecting.

00;16;28;17 - 00;16;41;06
Liz Cantor
It was I just something's telling me I need to do this. And so I went home, signed the contract, and before I knew it, I was flying out to New Zealand and participating in the mall.

00;16;41;29 - 00;16;46;16
Hayley Ferguson
Wow. Wow. That's such a whirlwind to not have any time to basically leave your job.

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Liz Cantor
No, absolutely. But yeah, I just knew I had to do this and be a part of this opportunity to do something unique. And perhaps with the mole casting, the fact that I was a young female surfer at that stage when there weren't a heap of females in the water might of, you know, set me aside to other young, blond, Caucasian women in the room because there were plenty of them.

00;17;13;28 - 00;17;37;21
Liz Cantor
I've just had a flashback to The Mole casting. So one of the casting games, a huge room of hundreds of people. We had to go around and each of us had to say one lie and one truth. You know that guy? Yeah. And so my lie was I went to Africa and I worked in the remote areas in the bush for six months.

00;17;37;28 - 00;17;53;03
Liz Cantor
And my truth was, I've traveled the world surfing some of the most dangerous breaks. And the room was kind of more in favor of the Africa story than the surfing story. And yes, so I think people were interested in that.

00;17;54;05 - 00;18;19;08
Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, I should probably explain. I mean, not everyone would know what the mole is. I mean, I grew up watching it, but essentially the mole is a bunch of contestants competing for a pot of money that they keep adding to by winning challenges. But every challenge they do, there's a secret mole among the group. And that mole, the whole purpose on the show is to basically secretly sabotage all of the challenges without being detected.

00;18;19;20 - 00;18;25;08
Hayley Ferguson
And obviously, you managed to figure that out very early, who the mole was and you went on to win the show.

00;18;26;02 - 00;18;48;18
Liz Cantor
Yes. So as I'm just I feel so grateful that I was also able to participate in a reality TV show. As I said, it was about the game. It wasn't about the contestants. And while I love sharing stories, I'm really uncomfortable with being the story myself. So it was really nice to be a part of that back in the early days of reality TV.

00;18;49;04 - 00;18;59;21
Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, it's one of my favorite formats and I was so excited when Netflix brought it back. The US have produced a season of the show recently in Australia and I think.

00;18;59;21 - 00;19;01;07
Liz Cantor
They did a really good job with it.

00;19;01;07 - 00;19;02;05
Hayley Ferguson
I was great.

00;19;02;05 - 00;19;10;08
Liz Cantor
I was like, Oh no, but they stayed true to the game. Yeah, I, I, yeah, I encourage everyone to watch that because it's, it's a great show.

00;19;10;16 - 00;19;25;06
Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, totally. And you obviously, you know, came onto The Mole with experience in front of the camera and you acted in feature films and television shows. Did you previous experience in front of the camera affect your gameplay?

00;19;25;14 - 00;20;05;14
Liz Cantor
Not at all. You think it would, but I think what I've learned about myself I cared more about I'm very competitive and I cared more about the game and the competition than my ego, which makes it quite uncomfortable watching it back at the end of the day, because you're like, What? Why did I say that? But what I did find on the set of The Mole was whenever Tom Williams was hosting, I was just fascinated with everything he was saying and how he was saying it in his preparation and when he stepped onto set and I'd find myself really interested in what the camera operators were doing at all times and how the executive producer

00;20;05;14 - 00;20;28;23
Liz Cantor
was working. So I was aware of the production, but I cared more about the game and being in the moment than I did thinking about what was around me. I do remember having a couple of moments where I would I would think about it as a TV show and a production point of view. And I think the first four episodes we lost the challenge.

00;20;29;04 - 00;20;48;10
Liz Cantor
And I remember getting home one night and being like, This is TV. Like, I need to do something about it. Losing like not good TV, but so I could, I could still think about the show. I'm like, Yeah, it's, it's so odd. And even jumping the gun again, I did a second reality TV show with an overseas cast.

00;20;48;13 - 00;21;11;01
Liz Cantor
And you think that I would have learned by then and be more aware to to use my abilities in that moment. But the reality TV producers are so bloody clever. It's a crazy, crazy based and it's so addictive, unscripted drama and being a part of it too. So you can't really explain it unless you've been a part of it.

00;21;11;15 - 00;21;24;19
Liz Cantor
How caught up in the moment you become - actually both shows, I nearly died on The Mole and also the second show I did, which was Called Livingstone, Botswana.

00;21;24;22 - 00;21;26;13
Hayley Ferguson
How did you almost die?

00;21;26;13 - 00;21;47;28
Liz Cantor
Okay, so neither moment made it to air. Surprisingly, I think they were kind of that footage was dismissed pretty quickly. Like, let's never let that see the light of day. But there was a challenge during The Mole where we were on quad bikes and we had to get from A to B with a helicopter above us with three contestants, with paintball guns shooting at us.

00;21;47;28 - 00;22;07;20
Liz Cantor
And we were in white suits. So if we got shot by people gun, we were out. So I was banging on this quad bike trying to avoid the chopper hovering above me with a paint gun by shooting out of it. It felt like something out of a war zone. And I got something called the throttle freeze. Try saying that three times - throttle freeze.

00;22;07;28 - 00;22;37;11
Liz Cantor
So basically it's like when you start to freak out and you like your hands kind of like grip, but you're gripping the fertile and you get to like release it to slow down. So I was just banging and basically I've flown over a ditch and hit the bank on the other side, said the quad bikes like come to a sudden stop and I've gone headfirst off the quad bike that because it was a ditch like I'd hit the ditch and I've landed up hill, done a full headfirst somersault.

00;22;37;14 - 00;23;04;13
Liz Cantor
But you know what I did? I just got up and kept running so that I wouldn't get shot by the paintball guns, Oh my God, I'm still in the moment. And I was like, SAS Australia, let's just keep going. And then secondly, jumping ahead to the Africa show, we were genuinely out in the bush with wild animals and there was, we were told, a lot of things prior to being out there and we were taught about encounters with different animals.

00;23;04;13 - 00;23;21;08
Liz Cantor
One of them was an elephant. We were told about the signs of charging. So I was setting up camp on a hill one day and I walked up towards the peak of the hill. And as I've walked up the hill, a young juvenile male elephant has come over the hill. If it was a female, I would probably be dead.

00;23;21;08 - 00;23;44;01
Liz Cantor
But the young juvenile males are a little not as aggressive as the females. And I've seen it, and it would have probably been realistically ten meters away from me. And I thought to myself, Holy shit, here we go. And I remembered it was like slow motion. So it's is flat out. And I remembered that they said there was like three steps before an elephant charges you.

00;23;44;01 - 00;24;03;17
Liz Cantor
Their ears flair, they stop pawing, they kind of like drop low and then they charge. And I remember the ears flared and I was like there's step one, it started pawing the ground. I was like, oh, wow, there's two. And I stayed pretty calm. Actually, in that moment, I kind of dropped down and didn't make eye contact and tried to make myself a non aggressive threat.

00;24;03;17 - 00;24;25;20
Liz Cantor
I knew that we did have an African guard nearby who was armed and it was incredible. Like he was just there in a flash and he just did these two massive claps with his hands like boom, boom. And that was enough for him to kind of showed the the they've got sensitive hearing apparently elephants and he just kind of looked at us and then walked away.

00;24;25;20 - 00;24;46;09
Liz Cantor
But yeah, it could easily have gone wrong. And I remember speaking to him later and like, how did that work? Like with you clapping in his face and he's like, It's hit and miss. But there's always methods that they will go to to communicate with the animals before they use their guns. That that was another moment where you get to the end of the day and you're like, Whoa, that was a close one.

00;24;46;20 - 00;25;00;04
Liz Cantor
But these experiences, I just wear on Earth, you get to put yourself in these positions. Then being part of a reality TV show in these moments, it's it's addictive.

00;25;00;20 - 00;25;19;01
Hayley Ferguson
That is crazy. I mean, you obviously you won the mole and then you went on to many years later win living star in Botswana. Can you explain what that is? Because I haven't seen it and I've actually tried to look it up and it's there's lots of information about it, but I couldn't actually find the show to watch.

00;25;19;11 - 00;25;42;24
Liz Cantor
Which is exactly why we're told that highly. So I done The Mole. I absolutely loved the experience. And then I'd always wanted to do another reality TV show, but I don't really have the celebrity profile to do something like Dancing with the Stars or those ones. I also didn't want to put myself in a position where I could hinder or distract from what I'm doing.

00;25;43;10 - 00;26;03;12
Liz Cantor
You know, I want to be taken seriously. I am working for a news network. I'm working in fantastic lifestyle shows, so I didn't want to do anything to compromise that. Also, when I did The Mole, there was no social media influencers didn't exist. So I went into that show and it was in the early days of reality TV where I was fortunate enough to come out the other side.

00;26;03;12 - 00;26;27;09
Liz Cantor
And it still wasn't about me and it wasn't about Liz Cantor. It was The Mole. And after it finished, I actually had a lot of interviews lined up and I just I was I felt very awkward because I never went on there thinking I was going to win. And when I did win, I was a little bit shocked and I just was like, Oh, I hope this doesn't affect or reduce my ability to get a job for news.

00;26;27;09 - 00;26;42;18
Liz Cantor
Like if I want to be a sports presenter or if I want to be a weather presenter. So I booked a flight to Hawaii and I got out of that the week after I won them all what I was meant to be doing some more interviews and media and I just kind of turned my back on them, to be honest, which was kind of a bit silly at the time.

00;26;42;18 - 00;27;08;23
Liz Cantor
But I was like, Oh no, don't let this compromise what I want to do, which is work in television and be taken seriously in some capacity with Livingstone, Botswana. I just got married. My husband and I had done some underwater wedding shots which were kind of unique, like in my wedding dress underwater. And a producer must have seen them and they got in touch with us and they said, We're looking for adventurous couples around the world to participate in a reality TV show.

00;27;08;23 - 00;27;31;27
Liz Cantor
And I was like, Oh, here's a guy. And they said, it's going to be the first ever reality TV show shot in Ultra HD 4K. So me thinking about pictures was like, Oh wow, that sounds fantastic. They said it's being shot in Africa and in the wilderness of Botswana. And I was like, Oh my God, I've always wanted to go to Africa and it's very unaffordable.

00;27;32;00 - 00;27;54;00
Liz Cantor
They said it's going to be a money can't buy opportunity. And then the clincher was when they told me that it was only going to be shown in Europe for a subscription TV network called Insight TV. So I was like, Oh my gosh, I could do this because it's not going to be shown to an Australian audience. I don't have to worry about social media backlash or whether it's going to interfere with what I'm doing here.

00;27;54;00 - 00;28;13;09
Liz Cantor
So I asked Channel seven if I could do the experience and represent Australia and that kindly gave me the green light. So before I knew it my husband was being dragged along too and he hates being in front of the camera. But I saw the opportunity to go to Africa. It was basically all the crew were mostly from Amsterdam, but also across the Netherlands.

00;28;13;09 - 00;28;47;23
Liz Cantor
And yes, we went across and represented Australia in a European reality show called Livingstone, Botswana, which was it's basically Survivor, but it's five couples competing in survival challenges with no food and the couples compete in challenges. The winning couple have the power to put a couple on the bench and the losing couple also go on the bench. And then Livingstone, the host, comes around with a bag and they type, they choose a rock out of the bag and one of the rocks is white.

00;28;47;23 - 00;29;05;00
Liz Cantor
The other rocks is a black. If you get the white rock, you had to go into isolation. Now your partner would compete against the other couples in the next challenge on their own. If they could win the challenge on their own, they would win their partner back out of isolation. And you would you would stay in the game.

00;29;05;08 - 00;29;31;14
Liz Cantor
If that person lost, then you're out of the game. So it was really it was an interesting concept because it was almost like a reality show with the love relationship side of things. But then also the competitive survivor side of things and also the mind F of isolation in the bush as well. And being separated from your partner and I was actually put into isolation, I think for five days.

00;29;31;14 - 00;29;50;26
Liz Cantor
And they were the longest five days of my life. I was sitting in the bush doing nothing. You don't have any books. You don't have any football, you've got minimal food. You are literally sitting there waiting every day to see if your partner will arrive before the sun goes down to either send you home or pull you out back into the game.

00;29;51;12 - 00;29;56;01
Hayley Ferguson
Well, and you're actually just essentially camping out in the middle of Africa.

00;29;56;19 - 00;30;20;22
Liz Cantor
Yet with no tent life. I remember one night there was a dust storm and I just had my shirt over my face trying to braid as dust was flying all around us and my ears were full. We know toothbrushes. We were brushing on teeth with charcoal or sticks and it was a true survivor experience. And I survive. It is my favorite show on TV and people are always like, Why don't you do Survivor?

00;30;20;22 - 00;30;41;17
Liz Cantor
And I'm like, Hell's no, because I have I've been there. I have been in that the headspace of actually feeling that starvation I've been in this city like it's what you don't see as well. Like those nights where it rains all night and you have shivered all night and then you wake up the next morning and have to do a physical challenge.

00;30;41;20 - 00;31;02;28
Liz Cantor
The exhaustion on top of the hunger. Yeah. It's one of the hardest things you'll ever do. And I remember speaking to one of the Danish producers that I got really close to while doing Livingstone, Botswana, and they also produced Expedition Robinson, which is the European version of Survivor. And she said to me, every cast member, because I was having a tough day out in the African bush that day, she said.

00;31;02;28 - 00;31;20;18
Liz Cantor
Every cast member in the moment, Moyes says it is the worst thing they've ever done. They'd never, ever do it again. And more often or not, they'll leave and say, That was the best thing I've ever done. Can I go back? And I get that now because in the moment I was like, What was I thinking? This is ridiculous.

00;31;20;18 - 00;31;34;06
Liz Cantor
This is not enjoyable. And if I got a phone call this week saying that they were doing the best of Livingstone, Botswana, do you want to go back to Africa and do it all over again? I probably say yes, which is just kind of yeah.

00;31;34;15 - 00;31;57;25
Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like, you know, with those two reality shows, The Mole was sort of very strategic mind games and Livingstone, Botswana was much more physical and endurance. And I guess what do you think it was about you that you were able to win both of these shows?

00;31;58;17 - 00;32;17;14
Liz Cantor
Oh, I don't know. You can't say that you got lucky, because I think, you know, if anything, if you want more luck, you take more chances and you create your own luck with the mole. I discovered a clue in episode two in the questionnaire at the end of the episode. What the final question each week is who is the mole?

00;32;17;23 - 00;32;41;07
Liz Cantor
So from week one to week 12, the 12 episodes every week I'd said, John is the mole week one, and maybe this is where my TV background comes into it. I remember thinking if I was the producer or if I was the casting director, who would I make them all? And I looked at the backstories of the contestants and there was lawyers and there was socialites.

00;32;41;07 - 00;33;02;25
Liz Cantor
And I thought, Oh, there's an ex detective. Wouldn't that make a great story if they were the mole? Because detectives are, you know, your knights in shining armours and you're intelligent people and I thought that that would be really clever to make the detectives the mole. And then so I went with him that week and I also when the mole needs to be someone intelligent.

00;33;02;25 - 00;33;23;28
Liz Cantor
So I kind of gauged the cast and thought, who's smart enough to pull it off and who could lie authentically? Definitely a detective. Week two. There was a counting challenge and so I was in a group counting shape and it took us three turns to get the correct answer. Then there was another group in a barn counting chickens, and I think it took them four turns to get the right answer.

00;33;24;06 - 00;33;44;26
Liz Cantor
There was 599 sheep. There were 599 chickens in a barn. The last group counted until I think 3 a.m. in the morning under floodlights. They were counting needles in a haystack. I went home that evening. They failed, they ended up quitting. And I was so frustrated because again, we'd lost the challenge. We won. We now lost the challenge week two.

00;33;45;05 - 00;34;06;15
Liz Cantor
And I thought 599 sheep, 599 chickens. Surely there must have been 599 needles in a haystack like tell a you to count that it almost felt like the challenge was designed to lose. So that number five, nine, nine really stuck with me. And I was out walking the dog. We were allowed to come home each week for one day before the elimination.

00;34;06;16 - 00;34;30;26
Liz Cantor
So I was home walking my dog and it was on the old Nokia mobiles. I was on speakerphone to my partner at the time and I looked at the kids and I went, Oh, the numbers correspond with lettuce. And I looked at five, nine, nine, and it corresponded with J well, J. WW And so that week when we would fly to New Zealand, I managed to find a way to hold everyone's passports.

00;34;30;26 - 00;34;51;18
Liz Cantor
As we were checking in. And I opened Jon's passport and his name was John William Whitehall. And I just remember having this moment where I was like, Shit, I know who the mole is. And I just after that, it almost was more intense because each week you had ten elimination questions, five, which were shown on air that tend to actually make it easier behind the scenes.

00;34;51;18 - 00;35;14;22
Liz Cantor
So I knew I knew who the mole was, but I had to know the answer to those questions. So some of the questions were like in the car. Driving to Auckland was the mole sitting in the front the middle of the back? What color t T-shirt was the mole wearing when they were doing the obstacle course? But I wasn't always with John, so those moments where I was separated from John, I was like, Oh, I'm not going to know what color, color, he's in!

00;35;15;23 - 00;35;37;15
Liz Cantor
So it was just it was intense. But I kept a diary and every night I'd get home and I would just write down everything I could possibly remember. It was like a study and an examination. So that that got me to the end of the mole with Livingstone in that survival situation, honestly determination and that I wasn't going to quit.

00;35;38;08 - 00;36;00;05
Liz Cantor
We shouldn't have won the show. In the very final episode. There's a huge survival challenge, but it was more of an obstacle that there was. There was so much to it. And my husband and I, we were competing against the African couple. An African couple were about 15 minutes ahead of us to the finish line. I remember again thinking, this is your TV like this.

00;36;00;12 - 00;36;22;05
Liz Cantor
There's not even a competition here. We're getting our asses flogged and the African couple got to the final station and it was that old survivor game where you put beans in a bag. So up the bag and you have to throw it and land on like a totem pole. There were three poles that used up all that bean bags and only landed on two poles.

00;36;22;14 - 00;36;44;05
Liz Cantor
So even though they were 15 minutes ahead of us when we got to the final station, time was irrelevant. All we needed to do was land three bean bags on the three poles and we beat them and we managed to do that. And I landed the last bean bag on the last like podium and won the show and the look on their faces.

00;36;44;05 - 00;36;56;17
Liz Cantor
And they were just sitting there watching us like, Oh, it was just a brilliant TV. It just came out of nowhere. It was like and they were there, it was in the bag. And then we came from nowhere and managed to win that one, too.

00;36;57;02 - 00;37;21;19
Hayley Ferguson
That's incredible. I mean, I know we're kind of jumping around a little bit here, but I just want to go back to the mall. I mean, to actually feel like you had figured out there was a clue right there in front of you with that number that corresponded to the letters and the initials of the mall's name. Like once you were on to that, did you have a strategy in terms of, I guess, deterring other people from guessing the mole?

00;37;22;14 - 00;37;48;28
Liz Cantor
I Yeah, to a degree, but it was weird for me because I was the youngest cast member at the time and I think my fault as well was I wanted to be liked by the other cast members and also being very competitive. It was a weird dynamic where, you know, I wanted to be liked and I wanted them to say nice things about me and I didn't want to get anyone offside if I did it again.

00;37;48;28 - 00;38;12;21
Liz Cantor
I think my sense of self was a more comfortable and I wouldn't care so much what they thought of me, but my gameplay just remained that the most important thing was that questionnaire at the end of the week and I needed to have every answer correct. And in the end I knew that the person who came second, Craig, I knew he knew them all, was John.

00;38;12;21 - 00;38;32;06
Liz Cantor
He knew I knew them all was John. We looked at each other and we both knew. We knew who the mole was. I don't know what John thought, whether he where his head was at, but Craig, who was an Army pilot, he was a smart guy. We just we knew we would look at each other, we would watch what each other we were doing, and we both could see it in each other that we both knew the answer.

00;38;32;09 - 00;38;53;17
Liz Cantor
So we knew it was coming down to who had the most answers correct in that final examination. In the very final episode, we got a printout after the show of every question and his answers to show that everything was fair and that it was legitimate. In the final episode, Craig got 19 out of 20 questions correct as to who the mole was, and I got 20 out of 20.

00;38;54;01 - 00;38;56;03
Liz Cantor
That's how close it was. Wow.

00;38;56;12 - 00;38;58;06
Hayley Ferguson
Wow. That's crazy.

00;38;58;19 - 00;39;22;06
Liz Cantor
Oh, slight sliding doors, if you want to hear something else that's really funny in that final episode. Well, I think that's fine. I we were behind doors. We were meant to be in train carriages. And Tom Williams said, Could the winner please come out of that door? And basically the doors were locked. But if you were the winner, you'd turn the handle and your door would open and you'd come out and you die.

00;39;22;09 - 00;39;44;02
Liz Cantor
You won. And I was in this train carriage behind the door as he was doing his whole spiel and waiting for it. And all of a sudden I just got this rush of adrenaline. I started seeing stars because I had like these spotlights on me and like music. And I was like, Oh, this is the moment. And it was like, Oh, shit, I'm going to fight like a baby boy even puts my doing.

00;39;44;24 - 00;40;01;28
Liz Cantor
Oh, no more of it. And then it just happened. It was like touch, like open your door. And I open the door to open. And I went through in the second like I moved like my dizzy spell stopped, but I was like, holy crap. Like when I finally went down on live television, it's are just those crazy moments.

00;40;01;28 - 00;40;06;28
Hayley Ferguson
From doing the mole, did that open up any doors that led you to where you are now?

00;40;08;00 - 00;40;27;20
Liz Cantor
It did actually. I came back from going over to Hawaii and I got a phone call from someone called Fiona Dedman, who was the series producer of a show called Creek to Coast. She'd seen I was a surfer and they wanted it was a predominantly bloke heavy show and they wanted a female in there that could do, you know the adventurous bloke heavy content.

00;40;27;29 - 00;40;44;08
Liz Cantor
So I was the girl. So I got a foot in the door with Channel seven on Creek to Coast. Once I had my toe in that door, I just started hounding the news director to the point of awkwardness, like always emailing him, Give me a shot. Whether I've done a course of meteorology, like I've been fascinated with news.

00;40;44;08 - 00;41;04;18
Liz Cantor
I want to be a part of the news team too. And it got to the point where if I saw him coming down the hallway at work, I cringe with embarrassment because I'd sent him so many emails and so many Chris And like, give me a shot. But he gave me a shot and actually, if I've learned anything in career progression with television, it's really rare.

00;41;05;02 - 00;41;24;21
Liz Cantor
Like I was very lucky with Creek to Coast, but it's very rare for someone to just come to you with a job. Sometimes the best thing to do is to create the job and give that to the network. And Channel seven News wasn't doing a beach and surf report anymore. They had an established where the presenter. So I went to the news director and I said, Channel Nine's still doing a beach and surf report.

00;41;24;25 - 00;41;42;29
Liz Cantor
I am a competitive surfer. I know weather bring back the beach and surf report in seven news. And so he gave me a chance to do that. And it was pretty cool because again, I was a young female. That was a format that mostly blokes had done, and I started doing the Beach and Surf Report for seven years.

00;41;43;06 - 00;42;04;18
Liz Cantor
I did that for seven years. So you've really you got to be in television for the right reasons because through my twenties I was pretty much married to the job, but it was good marriage because I loved what I did. But every weekend for seven years I was working for seven years. So you miss a lot of social occasions in that time that you've really got to put the effort in.

00;42;04;18 - 00;42;24;14
Liz Cantor
And I think it was yeah, only about two years into doing the beach and surf reports, I became a fill in weather presenter. Then the lotto presenter retired and I was able to step into that role because I'd proved myself in a live television format. And then also I was lucky enough to get a start on weekend. So yeah.

00;42;24;14 - 00;42;25;16
Liz Cantor
Persistence.

00;42;26;04 - 00;42;47;20
Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, I love that. And I think that's that's amazing that you sort of put yourself out there like that and, you know, ask for the job and then also created your own opportunity. Like you said, you do have to put yourself forward for these kind of things. And yeah, sometimes opportunities land in your lap, but also working hard and also just like persevering is really important.

00;42;48;05 - 00;43;15;00
Liz Cantor
Absolutely. And thinking you can do the job, but a lot of people can also do the job and well. So what can you provide that someone else can? And for me, that was that I had an authentic knowledge of weather conditions and beach and surf. So I really tried to utilize that as something that I could provide to seven News Queensland that another female in my age bracket couldn't.

00;43;15;00 - 00;43;30;14
Liz Cantor
So I think if you're looking for a job as a TV presenter, what's unique about you? What what's something you can provide that no one else can? It doesn't need to be something spectacular. It just needs to be something that is unique to you and interesting to others.

00;43;30;28 - 00;43;40;22
Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, definitely. And I mean, people would have the perception of, you know, TV presenter it's, you know, very glamorous. What's the reality, I guess, what's the hardest part of the job?

00;43;41;15 - 00;44;10;19
Liz Cantor
Oh, my gosh. You've very quickly just work out that you can't be vain in television. You've just got a lazy ego, if you will be in awkward situations and uncomfortable moments. And if you're even think about yourself in those moments, you just won't last. It's it's always got to be about the bigger picture. I think it's really important to have the ability to listen to people and just that curious nature as well, remembering that while you are a front person, it's not about you.

00;44;10;24 - 00;44;13;11
Liz Cantor
It's about the story and what you're sharing.

00;44;13;25 - 00;44;26;00
Hayley Ferguson
Yeah, you talk about awkwardness and being in uncomfortable situations. You've been involved in a lot of live television. Have you had any sort of on air mishaps?

00;44;26;00 - 00;44;46;24
Liz Cantor
So my answer to this question a week ago would have been no, which is crazy because when you work and live, I mean, I wouldn't say disasters, they've been mistakes. Absolutely. Because it's not a matter of if. It's a matter of when, when you're doing live television for a long period of time. But when I started off with weather and this is a great story to share.

00;44;47;15 - 00;45;09;22
Liz Cantor
I was doing one of my very first weather reads and I remember the sports presenter at the time was you know what? Someone has a pen in their fingers and it's like tapping it on a desk. So I was trying to concentrate on my autocue and do my weather read and the sports presenter in my peripheral vision to the side is just tap and I got to the end of the weather read and we were walking upstairs and I went to the news anchor, Kay McGrath, and I was like, Oh, sweating.

00;45;09;25 - 00;45;27;14
Liz Cantor
It's so hard to concentrate because, you know, Ben was just tapping his pen on the desk. My peripheral vision and the auditory stimuli was distracting me, and I thought she'd be like, Oh, poor you, Liz. And he actually said to me, Liz, you should be able to do the weather with the roof caving down around you. And it was almost like a watershed moment.

00;45;27;14 - 00;45;48;03
Liz Cantor
I was like, You know what? She's right. Anything could be happening around me. I'm the presenter on it. It's my job to be able to do it no matter what's happening around me. And it was a really great lesson to learn early on that you can't blame distractions, but my biggest stuff happened last Monday. I was doing the weather and we were doing across from some soccer field.

00;45;48;10 - 00;46;02;12
Liz Cantor
I've been watching the Matildas. I love soccer fans myself as the soccer player. The boys kicked a ball. It came over. It really hit the cameraman. We were in the commercial break before I do weather and I'd heard we were in the commercial break and they kicked the ball over. Was like, I've got time to kick it back.

00;46;02;12 - 00;46;23;03
Liz Cantor
So I went over to the ball and I booted it back and as I booted it, idiot me, I've just like heard something click and I was like disconnected a cable or I popped the cable out with the movement have been kicking and I was like, Oh crap. And so I'm floundering around on the ground trying to get my cable back in because your eye is fake cable.

00;46;23;03 - 00;46;41;29
Liz Cantor
It gives you your cues that you know how long before you're on air. You hear you can hear the news anchor in your ear. You basically bleep mind without it. So I'm there fumbling on the ground, trying to reconnect. And I look up at my cameraman and he just looks like he's seen a ghost. And I'm like, You got to help me reconnect this.

00;46;41;29 - 00;47;04;01
Liz Cantor
And he can't speak. And he's just looking at me and I say to him, Are we on air? And he just he couldn't talk. He just nodded at me, like, does this not? And I was like, Oh my God, this is it. This is that moment. I'm in my job. Holy crap. Like, I just pick up my mike and I just run, just doing the weather and I'm like, I'm talking.

00;47;04;01 - 00;47;24;23
Liz Cantor
But I'm also thinking I have no idea where we're up to in the bulletin. The weather's at the very end, so the time that is so important is in my job because I can't keep talking like if we are about to go off air. And so I throw to graphics and my cameraman comes over and he's trying to put a cable into my ear and like reconnect my IFB and I start getting the hysterical giggles.

00;47;25;01 - 00;47;43;25
Liz Cantor
And it was just an absolute disaster. I sat down at the end of it and I had white pants and I sat in the wet grass and I was like, Oh my gosh. But when I watched him back on air, Amanda, our news anchor in studio, she did a brilliant job and it was hilarious. I couldn't hear that when I'd said to the cameraman, Am I on air?

00;47;44;01 - 00;48;10;04
Liz Cantor
She was in studio and she's like, Yes, Liz, you are. And then I started talking to her. Didn't look like it was like, I don't know, somehow it came across on air. Not as bad as the reality of it all. I thought, yeah, just. And that's what I mean. You've got to have no ego, you've got to have no vanity because you get to have those moments, but you just feel like an utter idiot and you come back for the love of the job.

00;48;10;04 - 00;48;27;02
Hayley Ferguson
I love how you just kept going, though. It's so like, you know, those moments are very rare because like, you know, news presenters, weather people that they're unflappable and it's always so perfect. And I always love when you catch a moment where something doesn't quite go right because you're like, oh, look, they'll they're real people.

00;48;27;02 - 00;48;31;11
Liz Cantor
Like, yes, I love those moments, too, just when it's not me.

00;48;33;05 - 00;48;42;21
Hayley Ferguson
Before we get to the quickfire questions, I'd love to ask someone with a public profile. When you get recognized on the street, what do people want to talk to you about?

00;48;42;29 - 00;49;03;16
Liz Cantor
Oh, because I do the lotto. It's always, when are you going to call my numbers? Oh, something like a little a little nudge about lottery or a win or some people do want to talk about the weather, but I'm really lucky in that I am estate based. They call it tell it, for lack of a better word. So I don't have that problem of being like nationally recognized.

00;49;03;20 - 00;49;23;00
Liz Cantor
So I really love it when people do come up to me and engage with me because I love what I do. I love the information I share, and when someone wants to talk about it, then it's really rewarding. And the best part of my job is knowing that I can make people feel happy. So when they kind of come to me and share that they are enjoying what I do, then it's really rewarding.

00;49;23;00 - 00;49;27;23
Liz Cantor
So yeah, I love that moment where I get to interact with people and chat to them and well, you.

00;49;27;23 - 00;49;31;08
Hayley Ferguson
Make someone very happy every week when you read out there a lot of Oh.

00;49;31;21 - 00;49;41;16
Liz Cantor
I know we said in studio, especially when it's a really big jackpot and I'm just like, we all do like a prayer in studio. I'm like, Please let this go to someone good and deserving.

00;49;42;07 - 00;49;47;08
Hayley Ferguson
Then let's get to the quickfire questions. Do you have time for some quick questions?

00;49;47;08 - 00;49;49;08
Liz Cantor
Of course. It's a game, a love game.

00;49;50;09 - 00;49;52;01
Hayley Ferguson
Well, you're going to win it, obviously.

00;49;52;10 - 00;49;54;20
Liz Cantor
I'm I start the clock.

00;49;54;29 - 00;49;57;22
Hayley Ferguson
What is your favorite reality TV show to watch?

00;49;57;22 - 00;49;59;04
Liz Cantor
Oh, Easy Survivor.

00;49;59;05 - 00;50;01;15
Hayley Ferguson
What was your last TV show you watched?

00;50;01;15 - 00;50;02;20
Liz Cantor
Queen Charlotte.

00;50;02;20 - 00;50;05;20
Hayley Ferguson
Who is the most famous person you've met through working in TV?

00;50;06;17 - 00;50;12;05
Liz Cantor
Geri Halliwell Oh, Steven Tyler. Aero Smith Oh, actually, you know, he was really surprisingly nice as well.

00;50;12;05 - 00;50;14;22
Hayley Ferguson
Khloe Kardashian You've got a good list.

00;50;14;22 - 00;50;24;00
Liz Cantor
Well, and it's weird because, you know, Chris Hemsworth when he was on home away and I was doing beach reports of seven, we'd have to do like promos together. So kids like Chris Hemsworth, too.

00;50;24;07 - 00;50;27;14
Hayley Ferguson
Is it true you also dated Adrian Grenier from Entourage.

00;50;27;18 - 00;50;29;18
Liz Cantor
That is a whole nother podcast, babe.

00;50;30;18 - 00;50;33;02
Hayley Ferguson
What is your dream show to work on?

00;50;33;06 - 00;50;35;23
Liz Cantor
Oh, The Great Outdoors. If I ever bought that back.

00;50;35;23 - 00;50;37;21
Hayley Ferguson
Best location you've been to for work?

00;50;37;21 - 00;50;38;29
Liz Cantor
Botswana.

00;50;38;29 - 00;50;41;25
Hayley Ferguson
What canceled TV show needs to make a comeback.

00;50;41;26 - 00;50;42;25
Liz Cantor
Who Dares Wins?

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Hayley Ferguson
Have you ever been on TV. Really bad question.

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Liz Cantor
Many times

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Hayley Ferguson
If you could be on any reality TV show that you haven't already been on, what would you be?

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Liz Cantor
Oh, Dancing with the Stars.

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Hayley Ferguson
Oh, I've just finished working on my first season of Dancing with the Stars and it all best show. Like, I love it. I've always loved it.

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Liz Cantor
Oh. Our sports reporter Sally Pearson was on it and she said it was she said it was better than the Olympics. So there you.

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Hayley Ferguson
Go. If you could have dinner with any celebrity, dead or alive, who would it be?

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Liz Cantor
Steven Spielberg. Yes, please.

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Hayley Ferguson
Your time's up. You just. You just won!

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Liz Cantor
Yay! Three for three! Hayley, it's been so good to finally chat to you. I love what you do and you know how lucky you are. People coming up wanting to be in the television industry that they can now access information like you're providing. So good on you.

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Hayley Ferguson
Oh, that's so kind of you to say I've had so much fun talking to you. It's been a long time coming, and I'm so glad we could finally make it happen. And your baby still asleep? How did we even do that?

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Liz Cantor
I actually heard her start to gargel gurgle gurgle gurgle. So this timing is absolutely perfect.

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Hayley Ferguson
All right. Well, I will let you go, but thank you again.

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Liz Cantor
No worries. And when I retire from weather and Lotto, I'm going to come and be a runner to you one day. I can be part of the crew at Survivor. Sign me up.

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Hayley Ferguson
Oh, let's do it.

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Liz Cantor
Yeah.

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